Or BLU+DRK, w/e.
Recently I've been duoing some Abyssea shit with Zeig who only has BLU and DRK, both of us are kinda similar, we both have no Abyssea easy mode jobs (NIN MNK WHM), and kinda refuse to lv a bandwagon job just to gear up main jobs. That makes getting Abyssea gear extremely hard. Those who said Abyssea is easy mode and able to get gear fast should try to play as none easy mode/proc jobs and friends without easy mode/proc jobs, see if you can still finish empyrean/AF3+2 in one week.
So is it still possible to get gears without a group with right jobs?
I don't have a good tank/DD job like NIN MNK, so I'd have to tank NM on BLU or Zeig do it on DRK/MNK. Both of us has no WHM, so if we need a healer for duoing, we cure on BLU/WHM or DRK/WHM.
After getting more and more atma, including the useful GH atma, with some cheap evasion gear, I can finally tank or solo many visions/scars easier NMs with evasion setup. Of course my eva set isn't good at all and needs lots of work such as evasion swords/boxers, but it still feels nice that I'm able to get some shit done which I couldn't before. Such as:
Carabosse pop set: It gets pretty easy to farm Carabosse pop set now on BLU/DNC with Zeig getting red proc on DRK. Makes me wonder why I spent so much time to farm KI at 85 to begin with ._. I can probably solo the fly on BLU/DNC now with GH atma. If I know /DNC is that good when I farm Cara KI for Armageddon, I'd have done it already.
CC pop set: When I worked on 85 Armageddon, I already duoed Heqet with Zeig on DRK/WHM getting proc+ heal(yes he is the best DRK healer out there =D). Pull Heqet ---> Sleep adds with dream flower, run back to CF for adds to depop, rest is curing waltzIII spam and watch Zeig's awesome DRK/WHM healing ability while getting red proc+keep me alive. For mini fish, I just realized I can tank mini fish on BLU/DNC and evade most of it's attack, stun Seismic tail to avoid getting one shotted, as long as I don't have to kite this NM for 30 min to kill it I'm happy =D
Whiro: Pretty sure I can solo this on BLU/DNC now, can't believe I actually wiped when I duoed it with Tavera's WHM at 85, lol.
Isgebind: Farm KI in Abyssea - Uleguerand from gold chests with Charged whisker burn, invite leeches to help open chests and hold KI, brew 4~5 Isgebind at once with Wildfire when getting enough ppl holding KI.
Any NM that can't be killed with BLU+BLU or BLU+DRK: Ummm farm 200k Cruor in 2hr with Charged whisker burn, and brew them ._. Sell useless gears from NM, sell stuff from gold chest, sell leech spots during cruor farm, merc any gears that needs blue proc ._.
Ok, I suppose even without right jobs, it's still possible to get shit done without abyssea easy mode jobs. May not be the most efficient way to do it, but those who complained about abyssea easy mode on FFXIAH.com, should really stop using easy mode jobs and do it in hardcore ways.
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"yes he is the best DRK healer out there =D"
ReplyDeleteIt takes a whole ton of effort to be the best in a class of one person.
"as long as I don't have to kite this NM for 30 min"
If you are kiting an NM for 30 minutes then you are wasting your time as well as anyone who is helping you. Not to mention the time of those who are waiting on you to stop dilly-dallying and finish the fight.
"should really stop using easy mode jobs and do it in hardcore ways."
Your entire post is devoted to BLUx2, BLU+DRK, or Armageddon COR+whatever using leeches for extra KIs. What would you call every other potential combination outside of 'easy mode' and your so-called "hardcore"?
I understand that things are different for different people. They always will be. But right now, with this post, you are acting no different than the people you're griping over. Good job.
Butthurt?
ReplyDelete1. It does takes a whole ton of effort to be the best in a class, but every class has different aspect. We often say "This person is the best WHM(or w/e) class out there", sometimes it just means that he/she can get the job done nicely and try hard to do the best. The reason why I said that, is because I haven't meet any DRK bother to play DRK as a main healer. Since I never got healed by another DRK, I suppose I haven't get a chance to see any better healer on DRK no? Unless one day I pt with another DRK main healing and heals better, then I can mention his name as best DRK healer. No need to butthurt over that.
2. I do not like to kite NM 30 min, that's why I try to avoid it. But sometimes the jobs available just has to kite and run. Once someone even suggest on forum to finish Armageddon 85 by soloing CC on COR. Ok so if COR is your only job and you can't put a pt together, how you gonna kill it in less than 30 min? It's just impossible. You can't use your standard and ask others to play your way. There are ppl doing CC or Sedna in slow way all the time, like solo/duo on BST etc. If BST is their only job, then they can't kill fast, period.
3. I didn't say my way is the best way as well - -, it's not the most efficient way, but what I don't like is everyone's "omg abyssea is so easy" attitude when they all do it with most efficient setup. I still have no idea what's so easy about abyssea for those who does not have efficient jobs, or have a group with efficient setups. For those who does not have MNK NIN WHM WAR BLM, and their group also has no such jobs, I don't see how they can get their gears fast without proc and efficient ways to kill it.
Anyways I'm tired of everytime when I want to kill an NM I need to drag a WHM and a tank somehow, or else ppl started drama for popping NM without right jobs like last Isgebind hunt. I don't want to lv WHM and ended up gimping it, it's not even respecting the job. But I want to get shit done just as much. Instead of getting butthurt over it, why not just give better suggestions about how to get shit done without having an efficient pt setup? Instead of complaining about kiting the NM for 30 min, why not just give suggestion about how to kill the NM without kiting it for 30 min without having the right setup? Those BSTs who spend 50 min solo/duoing Sedna/CC, if they have a choice you think they would not want to kill faster?
ReplyDeleteI can understand that some players still like to do stuff with most efficient setup to save your time and others time and where all the butthurt came from. But just remember that not everyone is willing to lv jobs they don't like and ended up gimping it. Saying those who isn't using the most efficient setup is wasting time isn't solving the problem at all. That's how all the lolPLD, lolSAM and lolSCH came from in this game, jobs that can't get shit done efficiently got flamed and no one respect them. I'm sure ppl with those jobs, if they have a choice, they would kill the NM in 5 min instead of 30 min as well. No need to get butthurt over that.