Thursday 7 April 2011

Exploit?

A couple of weeks ago when I talked to Stealthkiller in a pt about freezing brew timer to kill multiple NM at once to finish my lv 90 Empyrean(and some other random NM here and there), he mentioned I may get ban by doing it and used Salvage dupe ban as an example, SE mass banned players using Salvage dupe in 2009. Zeig also believe that it's an exploit and shouldn't be used. There seems to be some players in community believe that this is an exploit and there are chances of getting banned by using it. And my question is, so what can be considered as exploit and what is not?

When Salvage dupe trick was discovered, SE didn't say anything about whether this is an exploit or not until 1.5 years later they finally fixed the glitch and banned players who used it. It caused fears in old players for doing anything that may be consider as an exploit just because SE may not say anything about it being an exploit and decide to ban players after.

I personally don't think SE would ban ppl for freezing brew timer, because it's hard to tell whether this is an exploit or just game mechanic. There are too many gray areas for this kind of subject. I popped a brew to kill Isgebind, and after I killed it a gold chest popped, I examined the gold chest and brew timer just automatically froze, so should I get banned because I checked a gold chest after using a brew? That means I'm not allowed to check gold chest at all after popping a brew?

This can apply to all the little game mechanic trick people use it all the time. You can solo NMs in this game by pinning strategy, and never get hit once by NM, should all those player who used pinning strategy to solo Lord Ruthven got banned too? CORs can remove the JA animation lock by gear swap, allowing them to spam damaging JA every 45 sec and never get hit once by keep running, should those NM solo CORs got banned too? A couple of months ago before SE fixed it with a patch, every pt kill Carabosse near ramp so the mages never got hit by Carabosse AoE, should all those pt got banned too? Those LS who killed AV before Alexander released, should they all got banned as well?

There are just way too many little tricks exist and commonly used by players and accepted as game play mechanics, I'd say at least 95% of players all used little exploit trick at least once in their life time in this game. If SE doesn't like how it works then it's their responsibility to fix it. I personally dont think freeze brew timer is a big deal, if SE doesn't like it they will fix it in the future, and that's it, no need to overreact.

Anyways, SE already mentioned on their forum
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/2817-Brew-Lock?p=34730&viewfull=1#post34730
that freeze brew timer is "currently [03/18/2011] a known mechanic and by design", so time to finish lv90 Armageddon with brews =D

4 comments:

  1. This topic seems familiar. :X

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  2. "Zeig also believe that it's an exploit and shouldn't be used"

    Since I know many fans of mine follow your blog :D, I feel obligated to correct the above statement, which does not accurately reflect what I think about this:

    I don't think it's an important issue, I may even resort to that. But the guy with the ban hammer at SE's headquarters might think it's an exploit (and that's the part that matters) someday and decide to retrospectively ban people who used it. It's the worst case scenario, but it certainly can happen, since it happened before. We all know that SE has been very paranoid about anything that "breaks the rules", and sometimes you might do stuff that you don't think it breaks the rules, or you think that it's not something to make a big fuss over (you may just get a warning, temp. ban, etc) Then guess what? you might get perma banned without even a warning.

    The majority of the FFXI community cannot live w/o Windower, and SE still considers it a violation, w/o even trying to understand why the players use it and how it improves their gaming experience..not a little a bit. It took them a few years just to implement a windowed mode option....and you can't even Alt+Tab to do other stuff on your PC with FFXI running, because then you'll lose your Fullscreen mode, and will be kicked out of the game. So, it felt like a prison. You couldn't LFP while doing other useful stuff on your PC, just to mention an example.

    The primeval brew is way OP, and if you can kill NMs that usually take x10 the amount of time and more ppl, and get all that loot in a few minutes, I thought it was prudent to refrain from that.

    After all, I've been away from the game for 4 years, and whenever I checked the POL website (every few months), all I could see was "Special task force banned X number of people!"
    ......and I'm like "Really? REALLY SE? Is that how you're working on improving your game?"

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  3. Well now that they said it's a known mechanic and by design, they really got no reason to ban people even if they decide it's against the rule later.

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